So, what's County Chairman Fredrick Niemann's next move going to be? Many pundits view Freeholder Anna Little's convention victory as an upset to the GOP organization establishment led by Niemann. So what does he do next?
Will he accept the will of the County Committee, the party rank and file, and support Little in the spring County Convention and November election? A post, since removed, on another blog would have one believe otherwise.
Some have said that Little's victory has doomed Niemann's chance at reelection as chairman in June. If this is the case, will he feel he has nothing to lose and start playing games? An animal is most dangerous when it is injured.
So what do you think Fred will do next? Attempt to dislodge Little in the spring convention? Run someone against her in the primary? Attempt to sabotage the November election? Or support the will of the people and work for Little?
Please let us know your opinion.
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Fred will transform into the chairman we hoped was elected in 2004.
He will embrace Freeholder Little and her team. He bring the various factions of the party together and host a convention where we elect a winning ticket. He will prevent a primary challenge to that ticket.
Fred will mend fences with those planning to challenge him. He will propose by laws that will be tweaked and adopted in June at the same convention where he is re-elected chairman.
He will then lead a victorius campaign where in we win all three seats on the county level and improve our standing in many municipalities.
Let's hope my crystal ball is a good as it was last week.
fred can be expected to do what is going to facilitate the payroll of the people he put on board full-time, a record high for this county's gop staff.
in addition, he has to pay court to the dons that facilitate his living. so, his choices are less actual decisions than things that must be accomplished to allow for economic flow to his employees and himself.
with that said, i don't think anna little cares a bit about a team of political cronies. so, without that, and since she's playing a straight game, i can only surmise that he is going to attempt another dull trick to try and usurp her, with barely concealed motives.
prediction: little gets primaried and wins. as for fred's future, a cold front is moving in and 85 percent chance of rain.
Anyone think Fred will pull a "Bill Dowd", forego a convention altogether, and name his own slate?
To Cicero:
You're welcome, and thank you for your respect and cheerfulness.
Your scenario is much more realistic than mine, though I hold out hope for the possibility of Fred's genuine transformation and a real united party.
In the 1800s my namesake argued against the Civil War and worked diplomatically to prevent it. When the war became inevitable he was the war's and the Union's strongest supporter. You can expect me to act accordingly if necessary.
My optimism has not gotten the better of me. Fred has a choice. I have only presented him his choices, as well as the consequences of making the wrong choice, elsewhere on these blogs
he has to do something to make it work. he obviously can't get it done behind the scenes.
"Do you divorce or stay in a bad relationship?"
Or work it out for the benefit of the kids?
when this chairman "proposed" to the party, he represented himself as a republican, which was and is his registration, but not his actual belief structure.
being "republican" means a certain thing, and one applys work in that general directin or else one is not a republican by definition.
if one does not act as a republican but represented one's self in that way to the party that they "married" (in this case Niemann to the county GOP) then that is a fraud and, in ecclesiastical terms, would be grounds for not only divorce but an annulment.
in the case of a "divorce with children," then the action would be more appropriate, because anything short of that would positively reinforce negative virtues and character traits and perpetuate a cycle of defective progeny by virtue of "nurture." pouring oil into the drinking water so to speak.
is this support for a chairman from niemann's people or is it more a case of some people sticking their heads in sand and fervently repeating, "everything will be alright, everything will be alright?" (lol)
that's my take on it.
Instead of the "divorce" analogy, let's look at it as the stockholders (county committee) at the annual meeting. The CEO (county chairman) and his management team (Gallic, Elkes, etc.) have to show that they have posted positive returns for the stockholders, and even if there is a positive return, they must demonstrate that they aren't running an Enron-type operation.
"An animal is most dangerous when it is injured."
Sadly, I'm hearing that Fred is talking about not even having a convention and naming a ticket which will not include Anna Little, Ted or Marie.
This is why we need by laws. We could end up being in a bigger mess than Bergen County.
Hi,
After a couple of weeks of reading the pap that passes for political discourse here I came to the realization soon after Lincoln Day and our most recent convention that I was just wasting my time checking in over here as this “blog” seemed to be monopolized by the same five or six members of the “anyone but Fred crowd”.
However, as a friend remarked that while the same six “guys” may be the only “bloggers” here that a great many may be lurking about. I’m not sure I’d bet on that, but I do find the concept of blogging interesting enough and am willing to hang around a little longer.
The few weeks should be interesting enough now that we have been informed of, limited as it may be at this time, the date of our next “convention.”
Hell, maybe there will be a little political give and take here. That would be refreshing.
Sorry, no "nom de plume" for me.
This is interesting. I believe I would like to join this Club of dead politicians.
Why Teddy Roosevelt. Because he was not afraid of the unvarnished truth even when those in his own party did not want to hear it.
First of all Cicero you have to understand something. GOP For Change was used,. It was used by people who wanted rid of Dowd for there own self interest this includes people in the group such as John Merla and people outside the group such as Malcolm Carton and John Bennet.
It was also used by people who realized that Bill Dowd had to go not because of what he did to Ed Stominski but how he did it. The majority of the sane rational people realized Ed Stominski had become a political liability who had to go. Why? Because he was in the game for himself not for the party or for the common good. He is still out there hawking for a job so that he can get lifetime medical benefits on the public dime. Dowd did the right thing but he did it in a despotic manner. Joe Azzolina was handled the right way. Completly Democratic down the line. Why did Joe have to go? Because he too put his own self interest first. That is his right but he should have gotten out of politics first.
We are making progress as a party . We have gotten rid of a bunch of self interested pocket lining bottom feeders. (some with the assistance of federal prosecutors).However, there are still some to go. We must be ever vigilant because politics breeds this type like cities breed cockroaches.
What about Fred Nieman, Fred is a basically good guy. However as Lord Acton states power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutly. I beg Fred to guard his integrity. He has generally done the right thing for the party but I see troubling signs in his recent actions. While he believes he is doing the right thing now, he needs to step back and think again.
We have not gotten By- Laws because Fred views them (as did Dowd) as a restriction on his power. He needs to realize the Rank and File do not want political bosses any more. That includes Fred and Bill Barham We want to limit power and we want a constitution and we want to find a way to win elections with out pay to play. I believe Fred could give us this but if he cannot or will not he should step aside.
We as a party need to look at other models of leadership. Perhaps an executive Board where the Chairman has limited powers and the Board is elected by and answers to the County Committee.
Maybe it is a system that has a Chairman and then regional Chairs. Maybe it should be a sytem like Morris County which runs extremly clean and efficient. I am sure that there are many other models to choose from. Politicians be forwarned. This is a grass roots movement that will not be denied. Get on Board or get run over.
By the way While I am a great admirer of Ronald Reagan (the real one not Dan)I do not subscribe to his 11th comandment. The truth should never be denied even if it is about a Republican.
TR
Tom Apostle: Hi. Welcome to my blog. I do in fact have many readers. Over 32,000 hits since June. As to the "anyone but Fred crowd", that is not the point of this blog. Comments in favor of Fred are welcome and encouraged; they will help readers make a decision in June.
No chairman is immune to criticism, and a healthy debate can help the party.
Teddy Roosevelt: Welcome.
HazletRes: Kaiser Sose is neither of the Lanes. Trust me on that. Let's lose the innuendo ("skeletons in their closet") here; you're coming very close to the edge. I'm leaving it up for now, but if someone complains, I will delete your post.
Sorry HazletRes. We had a complaint and now your comment is gone.
Let this be a lesson to you, HazletRes, for future reference.
Dear Mr. Roosevelt,
Your point of view is refreshing, but until now I had no idea that it was simply Bill Dowd and Joe Azzolina that put their own self-interest first.
Well, that being the case, I suppose everything should be hunky dory now in GOP land.
As a matter of fact, the MC GOP For Change comment you made was in err, Mr. President. In fact, at what point did that group NOT talk about bylaws? Regionalization? Enfranchisement?
Well, since Fred ash canned all that, let's just talk about the underlying current to get rid of Bill. Yeah, that's a lot easier. It wasn't Fred's fault that Bill had to go...and Bill was right he was just rude...no, the problem was the darn people in MC GOP For Change. How dare they believe in something their would-be chairman said on the campaign trail.
Yes, I thin they're horrible people too. Fred has earned his critics for a reason, pard'ner. That's just the way it is.
My post removed.
I guess Honest Abe can't handle the truth.
As to Mr. Purceel , I am not sure what post you read. but I shall not bother making myself clearer as i doubt it would be posted.
I didn't delete your comment, TR. Unless you're saying you also post as HazletRes?
An hour or so ago my post was replaced with a notice that it was taken down. Whatever it was that happened I am pleased to see it up. Thank you
Mr. Purcel. I do not know if it is my communication skills or your reading/listening skills but I clearly did not get my message across to you.
I never said Azzolina and Stominski were the only ones in the game for themselves. I mentioned a few others also.(who by the way need to go away) I readily admit that this is only a partial list.
I also never said Mon GOP for Change didn't raise the mentioned political reforms. I think they are a good group with some good people in it. I just think they are niave about many of there allies motivations.
We agree that Fred has earned his critics. But he has done some good things. Witness our last few conventions. I also think he is at a critical juncture. He must choose between darkness and light. If He chooses wrong I will be his loudest critic.
LOUTRO AERA, you say you want a new chairman...
What do you think we should look for in a new chair?
Kaiser Sose...You must only know my recent history...those that know me know that I've been around long before I was "building a business," as a GOP Club president, county committee member, campaign treasurer, aide to Assemblywoman Farragher, municipal campaign manager and presently 2nd VP of the Affiliated. I've worked for the Party long before anything else.
Those that know me, know that I have always put the party first. I was not part of the "anyone but Bill" crowd and I wouldn't be apart of the "anyone but Fred" crowd for the same reason. It's two easy to just throw stones. If I bitch, I'll offer an alternative. Bitching just to bitch is not constructive. At the end of the day, I'm only concerned about the institution of the Monmouth Republican Organization.
So I ask again, what do you want in another Chair?
Great, a chairman with reams of paper and gallons of ink. That would be a hoot.
Of course, the "p"ress would be thrilled.
But didn't we fight against such things 230+ years ago?
My crystal ball is looking pretty good after all.
There will be a convention on April 8th.
Freeholder Little will not be opposed.
Still no announcements for Marie or Ted.
maybe his next move will be to take an airbath
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